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Post by David (NJD) on Jul 4, 2016 12:15:10 GMT -5
Yeah guys sorry I should have said he was being rude to me many times.
I have seen some other very rude comments he has made to others but that's how I took it.
But that is my issue not others.
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Post by Trevor (Buf) on Jul 4, 2016 12:16:45 GMT -5
Agree with the above...alarming...this went down in a 'less-than-good' sort of way, at least in appearances. Ian locked out Mike and GMs were left without explanation....that's where this went wrong.
Can we just re-instate Mike if he actually wants to be back in the league now and move on past this silliness?
Is he rude?...maybe....likely not...having a strong opinion like many GMs here, 'yes'.
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Post by David (NJD) on Jul 4, 2016 12:24:07 GMT -5
Trust me it has gone way past strong opinion in my case and i have almost quit the league because of it a few times
No need to go into specifics but I think some of you know about it
But fine to have him back in this league. We just have agreed to stay away from each other. And a shame bc that means no trading with each other
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Post by Ian (Pit) on Jul 4, 2016 12:27:02 GMT -5
Agree with the above...alarming...this went down in a 'less-than-good' sort of way, at least in appearances. Ian locked out Mike and GMs were left without explanation....that's where this went wrong. Can we just re-instate Mike if he actually wants to be back in the league now and move on past this silliness? Is he rude?...maybe....likely not...having a strong opinion like many GMs here, 'yes'. If he wants back in, sure. If he does not, that is his choice. He was locked because he was saturating the board and going about things in a DECONSTRUCTIVE matter. And this was not the first time. And that's what a lot of GM's do as they go rogue. And if that's the dance someone wants to do,my II do it at your own peril. Don't confuse voicing your opinions with going rogue. They are not one in the same. I don't want to lose a single GM, but if the entire league went rogue, I'd shit the whole thing down without batting an eye because at that moment, I don't have a choice or anything to work with anyway. Unfortunately, it is not silly. It is sad. I just got tired of the line being crossed. I respect everyone here, but if you continually disrespect me, we're going to have problems.
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Post by Steve (Mtl) on Jul 4, 2016 12:27:34 GMT -5
Well, some real rude stuff has been said to me too, tempers run hot sometimes, can't take it so personally that you'll quit the league over some offensive words, y'know?... I just don't think that's a good reason for kicking someone out, unless we had the whole league saying 'this guy's a dick get rid of him'... But, from what the comments section says so far, you and Ian are the only ones with THAT much of a problem with him, and your collective standing in the league is the only reason something like this comes to pass... Edit: this was a reply to Dave's post, but I did it wrong
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Post by Chris (DET) on Jul 4, 2016 12:33:37 GMT -5
I don't think I have ever been rude to anyone (at least not in my mind), and I honestly don't think anyone has ever been rude to me since I've been here. Not once.
If I have been rude to anyone here, I will apologize for my past behaviour. I normally don't take this stuff that serious that rudeness is required. It's just fantasy hockey after all.
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Post by Steve (Mtl) on Jul 4, 2016 12:38:05 GMT -5
I don't think I have ever been rude to anyone (at least not in my mind), and I honestly don't think anyone has ever been rude to me since I've been here. Not once. If I have been rude to anyone here, I will apologize for my past behaviour. I normally don't take this stuff that serious that rudeness is required. It's just fantasy hockey after all. Dude you need to relax. That kind of talk'll get you on my 'blocked' list... If I knew how to do a sarcastic emoji, there'd be one here.
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Post by Ian (Pit) on Jul 4, 2016 12:40:11 GMT -5
Again, Mike is not kicked out. Let me explain the difference between kicked out and disabled.
Kicked out = banned from TBIM's PB site and deleted from Fantrax.
Disabled = Access to PB, not able to post on PB. He can still log on to Fantrax and chat.
Hopefully, he proves that I didn't make a mistake not completely locking Fantrax. And if he proves all is well, I will unlock PB. Had Mike not sought to start a wild fire yesterday, none of this would have happened. I respectfully approached Mike one on one and asked him to comply with my request to release my property. When he decided to ignore the request and skip formality by going public on PB, becoming disruptive and posting numerous complaints on a dead thread that I already passed a ruling on, all formality with me went out the window,
Again, I respect everyone. But if you don't give me respect in turn, then, be prepared to deal with me however.
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Post by Steve (Mtl) on Jul 4, 2016 12:40:41 GMT -5
Ahhh sorry Steve and Dave! Looks like we're the four horsemen of TBIM. I call dibs on Ric Flair Wasn't VAN around from the start too?
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Post by Trevor (Buf) on Jul 4, 2016 12:41:24 GMT -5
I don't think I have ever been rude to anyone (at least not in my mind), and I honestly don't think anyone has ever been rude to me since I've been here. Not once. If I have been rude to anyone here, I will apologize for my past behaviour. I normally don't take this stuff that serious that rudeness is required. It's just fantasy hockey after all. Dude you need to relax. That kind of talk'll get you on my 'blocked' list... If I knew how to do a sarcastic emoji, there'd be one here. I like that you wrote a sentence to replace an emoji. Now, were you sarcastic in saying you were sarcastic? I don't know which emoji is correct in that case.
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Post by Ian (Pit) on Jul 4, 2016 12:41:51 GMT -5
I don't think I have ever been rude to anyone (at least not in my mind), and I honestly don't think anyone has ever been rude to me since I've been here. Not once. If I have been rude to anyone here, I will apologize for my past behaviour. I normally don't take this stuff that serious that rudeness is required. It's just fantasy hockey after all. You're cooler than the other side of the pillow. Actually, everyone is honestly.mMike just gets a little white hot sometimes. We're at a point in our league's tenure where we don't need it. We're seasoned now. Just enjoy the ride. That is all I ask.
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Post by Ian (Pit) on Jul 4, 2016 12:43:38 GMT -5
If anyone talks to Mike, let him know per my comments that the ball is in his court. If he's settled, I'll unlock. If he's doesn't give a f**** then. I'll get that too.
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Post by Chris (DET) on Jul 4, 2016 12:54:21 GMT -5
I don't think I have ever been rude to anyone (at least not in my mind), and I honestly don't think anyone has ever been rude to me since I've been here. Not once. If I have been rude to anyone here, I will apologize for my past behaviour. I normally don't take this stuff that serious that rudeness is required. It's just fantasy hockey after all. You're cooler than the other side of the pillow. Actually, everyone is honestly.mMike just gets a little white hot sometimes. We're at a point in our league's tenure where we don't need it. We're seasoned now. Just enjoy the ride. That is all I ask. You're darn tootin' I am.
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Post by Ian (Pit) on Jul 4, 2016 12:54:57 GMT -5
Trust me it has gone way past strong opinion in my case and i have almost quit the league because of it a few times No need to go into specifics but I think some of you know about it But fine to have him back in this league. We just have agreed to stay away from each other. And a shame bc that means no trading with each other As commish, I have to take all complaints seriously. It is hard to prove one person's word vs. another. Mike likes to point out the rules. Okay. Click on the link and read the VERY first Rule of TBIM: tbim.proboards.com/thread/1421/rule-book
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Post by Steve (Mtl) on Jul 4, 2016 13:05:14 GMT -5
fair enough... but if I felt I made a legitimate claim on a player (which in this case, is an opinion that's backed up by multiple GMs) and the commish just took him off my team? I'd be a little pissed off too...
Edit: Especially if the Commish was the one who stood to profit from the decision... I'm not trashing Ian here, at all, but the optics on this decision and its fallout are not good...
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