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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 14:13:06 GMT -5
Post by kluu on Nov 7, 2011 14:13:06 GMT -5
to SJ: Datsyuk, Coburn, Prust, 4th '12
to NSH: Hanzal, Wheeler, Caron 1st '13
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 14:17:08 GMT -5
Post by Mike (NSH) on Nov 7, 2011 14:17:08 GMT -5
agree
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 14:47:22 GMT -5
Post by pillow on Nov 7, 2011 14:47:22 GMT -5
wow...thought NSH could have done better here...
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 15:00:27 GMT -5
Post by David (NJD) on Nov 7, 2011 15:00:27 GMT -5
Yeah this is very one sided.
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 15:31:27 GMT -5
Post by Ian (Pit) on Nov 7, 2011 15:31:27 GMT -5
* Trade under Commissioner review *
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 15:43:42 GMT -5
Post by Mike (NSH) on Nov 7, 2011 15:43:42 GMT -5
The NJ GM should post his last offer for Dats if he thinks this deal was one-sided.
And the Hocus should poll 50% of the GM's in this league who made offers on Dats...
Like I told everyone the price for Dats was this;
Player, Prospect, Pick... SJS had the best offer.
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 16:03:42 GMT -5
Post by Mike (NSH) on Nov 7, 2011 16:03:42 GMT -5
agree
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 16:04:49 GMT -5
Post by kluu on Nov 7, 2011 16:04:49 GMT -5
updated trade above
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 16:24:13 GMT -5
Post by Ian (Pit) on Nov 7, 2011 16:24:13 GMT -5
Reworked trade approved by Commish. Gentlemen, please put it through on Yahoo and post the proposal there as well and i'll pass it so it's effective for tonight - not sure if any of these guys play tonight. I have yet to check.
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 16:31:46 GMT -5
Post by Ian (Pit) on Nov 7, 2011 16:31:46 GMT -5
** Effective after this trade **
All future trades by all GMs must refelect brief commentary on why teach GM is dealing the players discussed.
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 16:46:14 GMT -5
Post by Mike (NSH) on Nov 7, 2011 16:46:14 GMT -5
Guys here is a little rational on the Dats deal;
Hanzal is 24 and solid second line C (actually 1b in PHX) who is good on the dot. Won't last but actually has more pts than Dats.... No one knows this kid because he plays in PHX.
Caron is a top prospect for BOS. Big winger who I can add to the roster now as he is playing with BOS.
2013 1st will be a top 20 pick hopefully not 20 like 2012 might be for SJS. Plus I already own 4 of the 1st 8 picks in the 2012 draft...
Wheeler is a top line player that hasen't really hit his stride yet but NSH will give him time to find it.
Hope this helps explain why Dats was traded from NSH. I think most GM's who I sent offers to know that I was not looking for low-ball prices...
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NSH-SJ
Nov 7, 2011 16:51:40 GMT -5
Post by Shaun (VAN) on Nov 7, 2011 16:51:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation, I really didn't have a problem with the trade as it was before because those were some of my exact thoughts. I think SJ is going all out this year and is among the favorites to win it and you are going younger. Getting a good young player, prospects and pick.
But I think HP is right, after we post our trades we should explain why we made the trade as it will help in understanding the mindset of both GM's and as HP already stated, we all value players differently.
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NSH-SJ
Nov 8, 2011 10:06:59 GMT -5
Post by David (NJD) on Nov 8, 2011 10:06:59 GMT -5
This might have been the best offer but you throwing in coburn into the deal is what made it one sided. He is an effective dman. I offered seto, Ritchie and a 2nd. You asked for seto figured u valued him highly like I do since you asked for him. And then you asked for seto/hodgson or seto/baertschi/1st all for dats. So yeah I thought your deal you made here was one sided as hanzel is an injury prone player who plays in PHO. I believe he is injured currently also.
That's where I was coming from. I don't mind me not getting datsyuk bc apparently you were asking a ton higher from me that you were from this guy. That's my explanation
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NSH-SJ
Nov 8, 2011 10:14:38 GMT -5
Post by David (NJD) on Nov 8, 2011 10:14:38 GMT -5
I should add I thought it was one sided but not that It shouldn't go threw you made a trade and that's how it goes
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NSH-SJ
Nov 8, 2011 15:05:02 GMT -5
Post by Mike (NSH) on Nov 8, 2011 15:05:02 GMT -5
NJD GM,
Just for the record you off Seto, Ritchie and a 3rd rounder not a 2nd rounder.
Seto, Sven and a 1st rounder is a lot closer to what I actually got than the offer outlined above. But the nice thing is we are all entitled to our own opinions. I just didn't think your critique was justified taking into perspective your own offer for Dats. Coburn is a toss in with little value on my roster IMO.
Regards,
Mike
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