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Post by DaveL (Mtl) on Apr 26, 2014 21:45:22 GMT -5
to BUF:
Bobby Ryan
to MTL:
Peter Celharik
Bogdan Yakimov
2015 3rd Round Pick (via NSH)
From my perspective, Ryan is a solid scoring winger with potential reached at the 25-30 G plateau and limited usefulness in other categories. I am not expecting to win in 2014-15, so I positioned myself for a couple years down the road with 2 well regarded prospects and a solid pick in a deep draft class.
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Post by Trevor (Buf) on Apr 26, 2014 21:50:31 GMT -5
Confirmed. Needed 'now' players.
Thanks Dave for the quick talks
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Post by Ian (Pit) on Apr 26, 2014 21:52:57 GMT -5
* under commish review *
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Post by Adam (Tor) on Apr 26, 2014 21:56:33 GMT -5
ya think
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Post by Trevor (Buf) on Apr 26, 2014 22:02:40 GMT -5
Booooo....No commish review needed, gents. Dave seems very intelligent about hockey. I think he knows what he's doing.
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Post by Ian (Pit) on Apr 26, 2014 22:02:51 GMT -5
In the interest of the league, I'm going to ask these two GMs to go back on the drawing board with this one. I am familiar with every player who was sent each way. No way can a player of Ryan's ilk not bring back just as good a damn good NHLer or one close to PLUS. It's okay to win or lose a trade, but this is ridiculous.
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Post by Adam (Tor) on Apr 26, 2014 22:04:16 GMT -5
definitly the right decision. good call ian
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Post by DaveL (Mtl) on Apr 26, 2014 22:08:53 GMT -5
Ryan's ilk? Meaning what? He doesn't take faceoffs or kill penalties, he doesn't hit or block any shots and he's a 0.68 PPG guy over the past 3 seasons.
He's coming off a surgery and headed towards a contract that will surely see him overpaid for 2015-16.
Ryan sat on my trade block for a week and 1 other person casually inquired at best.
Both guys I picked up have climbed up scouting charts and team prospects watch sites. That 3rd round pick could be used on a mid 2nd rounder from the actual NHL draft if it's in the 40s of our draft.
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Post by David (NJD) on Apr 26, 2014 22:09:03 GMT -5
yeah im sorry but when I didn't hear back from MTL about ryan I was thinking okay big deal coming. and sorry but while I am not a prospect guy I never herd of these guys in the light that most talk about prospects.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 22:11:29 GMT -5
definitly the right decision. good call ian Agreed |
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Post by DaveL (Mtl) on Apr 26, 2014 22:12:34 GMT -5
NJD - I guess the niceness of the dispersal draft has worn off quickly. I absolutely got back to you. I said you were light on young talent since you had clearly stocked up on win-now type guys. I then mentioned Kulikov and you resisted so I let it go. You made no mention of any of your players on offer, you just named my trade block basically and said you had interest in a few of my better guys.
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Post by Ian (Pit) on Apr 26, 2014 22:13:48 GMT -5
Ryan's ilk? Meaning what? He doesn't take faceoffs or kill penalties, he doesn't hit or block any shots and he's a 0.68 PPG guy over the past 3 seasons. He's coming off a surgery and headed towards a contract that will surely see him overpaid for 2015-16. Ryan sat on my trade block for a week and 1 other person casually inquired at best. Both guys I picked up have climbed up scouting charts and team prospects watch sites. That 3rd round pick could be used on a mid 2nd rounder from the actual NHL draft if it's in the 40s of our draft. All points I do not disregard David. But you'll be hard-pressed to find another GM who will agree that this is not a lopsided trade, even with our cats. You may not have received offers before, but I guarantee you'll get them now!! You and Buf can still work something out, but he'll be in tough after people see this. |
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Post by Shaun (VAN) on Apr 26, 2014 22:14:02 GMT -5
Sorry but this is just a revolting trade, no offense Dave but to move Ryan you should be getting back a Strome and/or a Kucherov and maybe even a pick. Everyone keeps throwing around the word "parity" for our league but this trade is the exact opposite.
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Post by DaveL (Mtl) on Apr 26, 2014 22:17:31 GMT -5
Revolting? Ok that's hyperbole if I've ever heard it.
Ryan is a 2 category player who's had 3 average seasons in a row at best.
Nobody here is giving up their best prospect for him.
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Post by Mike (NSH) on Apr 26, 2014 22:20:43 GMT -5
Dave,
With the recent trade freeze the trade blocks sometimes don't get a lot of attention.
When you are shopping a top 50 talent like Ryan you need to shop him hard.
You will get some great offers IMO.
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