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Post by Shaun (VAN) on Mar 26, 2014 15:16:10 GMT -5
Any proposed rule changes, questions, complaints, commendations will all be discussed here.
+/- Get rid of it but replace it with what?
Changing the 2 goalie min start.
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Post by David (NJD) on Mar 26, 2014 17:02:37 GMT -5
Can we just skip the season and the headaches and raise my banner early!!
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Post by Shaun (VAN) on Mar 26, 2014 18:35:30 GMT -5
We could have if you were going to win but there's no chance of that happening so let's not and say we did.
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Post by David (NJD) on Mar 26, 2014 23:57:40 GMT -5
A serious topic is: playoffs for nonplayoff teams. I think we should set up something. I'd be pretty blah if I didn't make the playoffs and there was no consolation prize or something. This will help us in teams not tanking as much. Like if they win they get another draft pick. Thought we had that in the first season or something? Maybe it's just a fantrax thing?
Sexond topic: do we have consolation draft pick prizes for winning the league, or your division? Thought we had this in year one as well.
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Post by Blake on Mar 27, 2014 1:26:06 GMT -5
A serious topic is: playoffs for nonplayoff teams. I think we should set up something. I'd be pretty blah if I didn't make the playoffs and there was no consolation prize or something. This will help us in teams not tanking as much. Like if they win they get another draft pick. Thought we had that in the first season or something? Maybe it's just a fantrax thing? Sexond topic: do we have consolation draft pick prizes for winning the league, or your division? Thought we had this in year one as well. Previously with Yahoo there was a consolation side for teams not competing for the championship but I don't recall it ever having any bearing on draft picks. Also don't recall consolation picks either for teams winning the league or their division. The only extra picks awarded to teams were picks at the end of the first and second to CBJ and DET when new owners took over because the previous owners had such poor teams but that's a completely different issue. I would like to propose a minimum games played and I believe you can do this with fantrax, if not forget it. For those unfamiliar with what I'm talking about, it basically keeps track of how many games your players were active in your line up, it's an accumulation over the season. It would help eliminate tanking IMO.
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Post by Dave (Chi) on Mar 30, 2014 18:21:55 GMT -5
Re: david's idea - extra picks. I'd only be in favour of this if they were late picks; as I'd worry giving division winners and league champions extra good picks will just make it harder to keep a competitive balance. So I'd support this if the rewards were modest. Re: blake's idea - min GP. I'd have no issue introducing min GP. Although I believe GM inactivity is a bigger issue than tanking. Throughout the year, I've noticed some teams do not bother to use all the alloted reserve spots and some teams leave inactive players on the bench when there are active options. I think there should be a requirement that every team have a full pro roster, and that every team sets their pro line up for each game to include as many active players as is possible.
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Post by Ian (Pit) on Mar 31, 2014 11:04:38 GMT -5
Let's try our best to only have talk in this thread regarding possible changes as this thread will be messy on its own. Talks will officially start once the playoffs are over as ALL need to be involved. If multiple GMS share the same concern, it is worthy of discussion. If not, it will be removed from the thread. Below are some topics I feel warrant attention based on what other Gms have stated.
Replace +/- cat.
lLooking for suggestions. Not sure what to replace it wit: e.g. POINTS TOTAL, for example. Whatever it is, I want something driven toward more of a scoring cat with player control if possible, not something as random. As it stands, this cat is too volatile of a skater cat. We don't lose goals, assist or whatever once they have already been obtained. With goaltending counting for so much of a team's scoring, I'm okay with it having a volatile cat like sv% to square things.
League Set Up
TEAMS & SCHEDULES SCHEDULE - number of matchups each team plays ea scoring period-- currently 1. It Goes up to 18. Would anyone be interested in playing more than 1 team in a single period? This would give us more of an NHL flare and spice things up a little.
SCORING PERIOD INTERVAL - Presently WEEKLY. Not sure how DAILY would shape the scoring but I am intrigued.
SCORING - MIN/MAX GP (skaters) obviously needs added. I think this has been proven to be true this year. It will help with cycling and tanking. It will make GMs compete which is what this league is all about. Some GMs will have to step their game up to stick around. When this goes into effect, no rocks to hide under.
TRANSACTIONS - this will put a cap on FA adds and or WW adds. OT if we desire, a cap can be put on both. The cap can be within a scoring period or for the year.
MISC -- TIE BREAKERS: Current Priority H2H is first priority. I like this, but not for our present format as I feel we don't play enough games among each team for it to hold scuba high priority. Perhaps if we change how many games are in a scoring period and play each other more than once, it is deserving of being first priority.
Beyond H2H, second is "Most Wins," followed by "Best Division record", both of which I believe are fine and not as slanted as H2H is with our current schedule. The last option to choose com is - Random Selection. Since I don't know what that is , I don't like it. lol
Again, these are ideas I wanted to get down on paper. We'll visit them and others when the playoffs end. At least for now, give them some solid thought so we can move our off-season along. I suspect there will be multiple changes made so we may hit a crunch with time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2014 18:16:48 GMT -5
+/- - no real opinion on this but would prefer total points as an option. Maybe blocked shots as it would give Dman more value.
Changing the scoring intervals would be interesting but if it was a night when you don't have a tender playing, you probably don't have a chance. I think the week to week option eliminates any irregularities and puts it as close to a level playing field as possible.
Only time you are going to have a minimum games played limit not reached is if the GM is not setting his lineup 2+ times a week. That case there should be a strike system like I believe you used to have. Think I maybe forgot to set my lineup once fully this year due forgetting to bring my phone to work. Missed a few players here and there but that was stupidity on my part with early games Sunday or maybe MLK jr day.
Maximum games I may have an issues since my team is good on quantity but weak on quality. GP does not have that huge of an impact since I was 2nd in GP during the season but finished out of the playoffs. Streaming of the waiver wire is annoying (as I saw a few times this year) and should probably be limited to 3 or less moves a week imo. With a bench and farm team, is there really a need to make more than 3 moves a week of the wire.
To avoid tanking, maybe have some kind of playoff or lottery that is not so weighted on poor position. I don't follow the NBA real close anymore but isn't there lottery quite a bit looser than the NHL? I seem to recall that back in the 90's that Orlando had the best record among the teams that missed the playoffs and won the lottery for Webber? Webber never played there as he was traded but you get the point. Some kind of odd lottery would be a good idea from tanking.
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Post by Trevor (Buf) on Apr 4, 2014 19:46:43 GMT -5
Just some ideas I was thinking of....
- two weeks each of semi finals and finals so the best teams don't get caught by dumb luck or by resting stars or by light schedules
- not have any games on the last week of the NHL season to avoid when teams are sitting their stars
- I'm okay with +\-, although I know hy it could go....I'd like to head suggestions on its replacement and total points would be a redundant category so I am very against that one.
- I definitely do not like shortening the scoring periods. Is it possible to play two teams, in two separate match ups, during the same seven day scoring period?
- no to maximum games. Yes to minimum games.
- yes to max waiver adds each week, but we'd have to allow some each week.
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Post by Trevor (Buf) on Apr 4, 2014 19:48:05 GMT -5
Sorry for typos....phone typing
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Post by Chris (DET) on Apr 5, 2014 5:22:45 GMT -5
How about reducing required goalie starts from 2 per week down to 1 per week.
In a league this size, few teams are lucky enough to own 2 starters, and if your starter gets hurt you are screwed that week for goalie cats. As we all know, trading for a goalie is like pulling teeth in this league. I just think that 2 starts per week is more then we should have to bear when goalie cats are so damn important.
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Post by Steve (Mtl) on Apr 5, 2014 18:46:44 GMT -5
How about reducing required goalie starts from 2 per week down to 1 per week. In a league this size, few teams are lucky enough to own 2 starters, and if your starter gets hurt you are screwed that week for goalie cats. As we all know, trading for a goalie is like pulling teeth in this league. I just think that 2 starts per week is more then we should have to bear when goalie cats are so damn important. I'm not into this idea at all... I don't think that two starts is unreasonable as a minimum, and it avoids a GM sitting on a shutout to win two guaranteed cats with just one game...
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Post by Chris (DET) on Apr 6, 2014 6:40:01 GMT -5
How about reducing required goalie starts from 2 per week down to 1 per week. In a league this size, few teams are lucky enough to own 2 starters, and if your starter gets hurt you are screwed that week for goalie cats. As we all know, trading for a goalie is like pulling teeth in this league. I just think that 2 starts per week is more then we should have to bear when goalie cats are so damn important. I'm not into this idea at all... I don't think that two starts is unreasonable as a minimum, and it avoids a GM sitting on a shutout to win two guaranteed cats with just one game... And thats a bad thing because.............? If you only want to win 2 goalie catagories then that's a choice you would make. I know if I had a shutout, I wouldnt be sitting my goalies because I would still want to win the other catagories as well. It takes a lot more then just 2 goalie catagories to win a week. On the other hand, if your only starting goalie is hurt, and you lose all goalie cats because your only backup only gets one start, you are pretty much guaranteed to lose the week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 8:02:08 GMT -5
As a person with 1 goalie who was out for damn near the whole year the 2 goalie start basically made sure I wouldn't win a single matchup all year, not sure why that is good for a competitive league
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Post by Steve (Mtl) on Apr 6, 2014 8:43:49 GMT -5
Fair enough, but some teams, including myself, traded for additional goaltending with these parameters in mind... It's like if people were trying to eliminate FOW as a category because some other teams did a better job of acquiring them... Goalies are available, but you have to be willing to pay the price.
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